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Sid Terror	FINDING LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT - ARTICLE DISCUSSION		Lead	[-]
Posts: 504 07/23/08 17:38:52	Tags : sid terror, lon chaney, mark of the vampire, london after midnight, lost, found, to browning, mgm THIS FOLDER IS RESERVED FOR SERIOUS DISCUSSION OF THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE AND RELATED INFORMATION ONLY. IF YOU HAVE NOT READ IT OR ITS UPDATES CLICK HERE TO BE REDIRECTED Last Edited By: Sid Terror 08/05/08 05:29:26. Edited 8 times.
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captainmarvel1957		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 07/23/08 18:29:48	TILT! GAME OVER! Last Edited By: captainmarvel1957 07/28/08 21:54:36. Edited 1 time.
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taraco		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11 07/23/08 20:21:05	Quite an involving story, and well documented, Sid. My primary question -- and one of others, I'd imagine -- is I cannot understand why, if indeed you held the film in your hands, saw the title card on the film, saw Lon Chaney as the 'vampire' on the other reel, in all respects held LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT in your hands (!), why you would so stealthily and quietly put it back and leave. It seems you said nothing to anyone officially and the 'secret' was held just between a few of your friends and associates? No, you should not have stolen it. But why didn't you cause a public clamor then and have film buffs and/or historians meet with Turner/MGM and go get the film from the storage vault? Because if I'm reading this right, you're basically saying you stumbled upon it (or ferreted it out), held it in your hands, realized what it was, had a notation mnade on the film cannister, and then took no other action for years and never really mentioned it publicly. That confuses me. Am I missing something? This wasn't the 60s. It was 1998, only a decade ago. Such a monumental find, and then you walk away? And now it is gone? Explain the reluctance to raise an alarum immediately, please? david Last Edited By: taraco 07/23/08 20:24:04. Edited 1 time.
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deathdolly		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 480 07/23/08 22:05:33	Utterly FANTASTIC, Sid! Bravissimo! What a GREAT day this has been in so many ways. Oh, by the way.. I did tell you I went to grad school at SC, right? I know Sandra Joy Lee, personally. I also know a few current film professors there as well... just saying. But to you a big
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Sid Terror		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 504 07/23/08 22:51:32	taraco wrote: Explain the reluctance to raise an alarum immediately, please? David, As I said in the article, the facility was transferring films from nitrate to safety film on a daily basis. I transported prints myself. In other words, the print was EXACTLY where it should have been for the rightful owners to do what should have been done with it. Granted, they thought it was missing a reel which is what the hang up was previous to that, but I had a note made to remedy that in the database. I have been telling people for years about this... Anyone who would listen. But obviously the people who were listening were not the people who could do anything about it, or they would have. It has been frustrating and everyone has seemed to have dropped the ball on it, including MGM staff who at one time found it, told their bosses, and were told "Eh, we don't have the rights to it anymore, so who cares, we can't do anything with it". Had they just driven it across town to the people who did own it, we wouldn't be talking now. But they didn't because no one wanted to take responsibility for it, or rock any boats, because that might endanger their job security. IN the present, I've drawn everyone a roadmap to it and given people the ammunition to do something about it with the list of email addresses and phone numbers at the end of the article. I urge everyone to use this information I've laid out in great detail, to get out there and rattle cages and put bees in bonnets about this. WE CAN GET IT OUT IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AT ALL OUR RESOURCES. Above going in there and "liberating" the print myself somehow, which would have dire legal ramifications (believe me, I've planed and plotted it in my head for years) a write in / phone call campaign is about all that can be done. So my question is, why are people still sitting here? GET OUT THERE AND GET BUSY TROOPS! --Sid Terror Horror Drunx: Hollywood Chapter Leader
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Sid Terror		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 504 07/23/08 22:54:14	deathdolly wrote: Oh, by the way.. I did tell you I went to grad school at SC, right? I know Sandra Joy Lee, personally. I also know a few current film professors there as well... just saying. Then I trust they will take your call when you ring them up tomorrow. --Sid Terror Horror Drunx: Hollywood Chapter Leader
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horrorcreep74		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 18 07/24/08 04:34:04	i wonder if the canadians have read this story yet.. hmm... but nice find Sid!
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Crespi.monsterkidclass...		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 07/24/08 09:36:40	I would also like to believe, but I wonder what took you so long? Why did you not make this information public after you held the can in your hands? Sorry, I dont quite undersatnd. Why now suddenly? Now you write there is a rush, it needs to be restored quickly, ten years ago it would have been in a better shape. As I stated before, I really want to believe...
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Mort Daddy		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 800 07/24/08 11:33:38	gjpatry wrote: David and Crespi- Totally agree with you both. This doesn't add up and I'm sure it's a hoax. Getting really annoyed with people doing this every couple years. The joke is old so let's put an end to it. Gary it sounds to me like you don' want the movie to be found.
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gjpatry		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 07/24/08 11:48:12	No- I absolutely want the movie to be found. In fact I believe in my heart that it is sitting somewhere and will eventually be found. But I just don't believe this story.
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Mort Daddy		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 800 07/24/08 12:22:51	gjpatry wrote: No- I absolutely want the movie to be found. In fact I believe in my heart that it is sitting somewhere and will eventually be found. But I just don't believe this story. sounds like a counterproductive way of looking at things. why even come onto these boards stiffle the topic at hand? the horror drunx provided VERY important clues. take it or leave it. just don't waste our time. Last Edited By: Mort Daddy 07/24/08 13:33:25. Edited 2 times.
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Michael Elliott		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 07/24/08 13:19:06	If Sid will send me his information then I can pass it along to George Feltenstein at Warner.
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Mort Daddy		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 800 07/24/08 13:56:45	Michael Elliott wrote: If Sid will send me his information then I can pass it along to George Feltenstein at Warner. sid will be unavailable until sunday night. please pass this article along to george feltenstein if you have the connections.
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Drac39		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 15 07/24/08 14:03:02	Fascinating story and I joined this fine website for it. Apparently you think that in order to find the print in order to properly perserve it, we would need to get the attention of people. I recommend letting the local California news outlets know about it and maybe sending emails to the big film sites such as IMDB. Or we could call the Turner and Warner Brothers people and let try to let them know the severity of what they have.
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Mort Daddy		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 800 07/24/08 14:06:52	Drac39 wrote: Fascinating story and I joined this fine website for it. Apparently you think that in order to find the print in order to properly perserve it, we would need to get the attention of people. I recommend letting the local California news outlets know about it and maybe sending emails to the big film sites such as IMDB. Or we could call the Turner and Warner Brothers people and let try to let them know the severity of what they have. i like the way you think
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profgriffin	What a Story.	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 07/24/08 14:27:09	What a great story. And I certainly hope it's true. (For Forry's sake...hurry up) But I must echo the grumblings...why now? Tears would have welled up in my eyes too had I held it in my hands. As I said. A great story...well told.
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Drac39		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 15 07/24/08 14:28:16	Well I've emailed Fox and NBC's LA affilates about this being a potential news scoop. AICN has posted this as a top story so that should spread publicity to this web page.
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timsalmons1982		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 07/24/08 15:07:25	I've also forwarded the article from both here and Ain't It Cool to thedigitalbits.com, I hope this helps and brings this film to the light of day for all of us to finally revel in and enjoy!
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Mort Daddy		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 800 07/24/08 15:16:02	timsalmons1982 wrote: I've also forwarded the article from both here and Ain't It Cool to thedigitalbits.com, I hope this helps and brings this film to the light of day for all of us to finally revel in and enjoy! thanks!
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The Giant.theharoldlloydc...	What About Chaney/Browning's THE BLACKBIRD (1926)?	#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 14 07/24/08 15:34:18	I really hope that this story is true. I think that it honestly might be. However, in the meantime, how many of you here have seen Tod Browning's THE BLACKBIRD (1926), with Chaney, Renee Adoree, and Owen Moore? While not a lost film, it is just like a "lost film" since it has been rarely seen for decades on end. Well, this film has been fully restored and has a new score by Robert Israel. It is listed as THE BLACK BIRD in the TCM Data Base, not THE BLACKBIRD, which I believe is the correct title? Anyway, I am working very hard right now to get an American TCM premier in October. I have been in contact with TCM Programmer Charles Tabesh, and it looks like it could happen? This edition was actually ready to go in 2005, but has only been seen on some foreign TCM's so far. I don't no why? Seems the restoration was produced, and forgotten about, and has yet to premier in the States? That being said, I have an excellent copy on DVD-R, if anyone is interested? There are foreign translations beneath the English title cards, but other than that it looks great. The film is in better shape than almost any other surviving MGM Lon Chaney feature. In all sincerity this is probably a better film than LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT was anyway! Definitely Chaney's most underrated movie. If you want to see this film on TCM, start requesting it on the TCM Movie Data Base, and be sure to vote for a DVD release as well. It really should be included in the forth-coming TCM Archives Lon Chaney 2 set. Though at present it was not scheduled among the titles. So raise a fuss! With a brand new Browning documentary slated to be part of the release, the collection simply must feature THE BLACKBIRD as well! Last Edited By: The Giant 07/24/08 15:55:12. Edited 2 times.
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Mort Daddy		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 800 07/24/08 16:25:06	Drac39 wrote: Well I've emailed Fox and NBC's LA affilates about this being a potential news scoop. AICN has posted this as a top story so that should spread publicity to this web page. good work!
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